i'd like to see the emperor in the current milenia actually do something that lives up to his badass reputation if/when he gets his ass out of that throne. They are loyalist and they don’t mean to be on the wrong side, but their entire job of defending the Husk of the Emperor is just delaying his return. So I don't think there is much chnace of Russ, Corax or whoever being corrupted by chaos in the warp, remember that a Primarch is a son of the Emperor, everything that chaos hates and they carry some of his power. To me Guilliman has as potentially just as good a chance as any of the loyalists of a return/being healed. To me Guilliman has as potentially just as good a chance as any of the loyalists of a return/being healed. Some think one day he will indeed heal through some means and return to humanity. However, if the Emperor is an active force, talking with people and directly influencing events, then its possible things are more under-control then we previously thought. Eldar race extinct. Go AD FREE today! As for Guilliman, i say the on emps last breath, he sents some sort of hyper-physcic cure to him. There is almost no evidence to suggest a loyalist Primarch could be corrupted by chaos, whether they are in the eye of terror or not. “The generally held view of the Emperor is that he has been a passive player in the game.” Let us take the return … Thanks. (i could really ramble on a long time here) ^^. He killed Horus and he’s going to kick your butt, too! I don't get why people would think Russ or Corax would get corrpted by chaos by being in the warp. We have many examples of them from Ollanius Persson, to Vulkan, the Primarch of the Salamanders Legion, and now the the Emperor. Both Black Library via the Horus Heresy series and GW directly have admitted the Emperor of Mankind is a Perpetual. But sure aren’t telling their followers what’s going to happen if they DO manage to succeed and kill the Emperor! By Barry Ashcroft Nov 15, 2020. (He blasted apart the second most powerful being in the universe, i.e. Bringing the Emperor back as an active, vital force immediately invalidates most other conflicts and most other factions. (aka. Horus: saw the future of Emperor being worshipped as god (and not any mentioning of him), which was made a self fulfilling prophecy, I give you that), and acted as he was raised to, by the emperor as anti religeous person trying to topple a false idol. He warps the entire setting around himself. Maybe this just shows the inherit “Chaos” of the warp. They start improving the quality of guardsmen so that it is Quality=Quantitiy. That’s a BIG DEAL. While there have been many prophesies of the Emperor’s return, we have it seems moved from prophecy to evidence, with actual acts taking place to herald His coming. I also agree with your theory on the High Lords, I said earlier this is another reason I would love to see a loyalist return, just the potential ramifications within the High Lords and the Imperium would make a great story, never mind what the Primarch would actually end up doing. They just don’t know it any better. @High Lords - don't think anyone said they would give up their power for a Primarch, rather wondering how they would react if loyalist did return. So what does that mean for 40k? The foul Warp entities that would become the four Great Powers of Chaos had not yet fully formed when the Emperor was born on Earth during prehistoric times, somewhere in ancient central A… It actually helped humanity distance themselves from the idea of a stagnat imperium. Vulkan returns after they find the artifacts, and assembles them into a super-weapon of DOOM! That could mean he’s a puppet for the Aeldari – or maybe he’s something else entirely…, Cypher has been trying to get to the Emperor for thousands of years with the Lion’s Sword for “some reason” – guess what, he’s not the ultimate villain, he’s the savior of mankind! If you’re not familiar with a Perpetual, just know that it means that if the emperor dies, he will just reincarnate. @ 68.194.163.239 - exactly! @ High Lords: they rank higher than the primarchs and had also been in that position before the primarchs were lost/ introduced during the Great Crusade, as such: why should they give up their positions? So what does that mean for 40k? Also, to assume the loyalists would be corrupted simply because they are unaccounted for is just ludicrous. I must admit I personally quite like the idea. The real problem is when the Astronomicon is shut down and the hole in the Warp caused by the damage of the events of the Horus Heresy opens up. Here’s some reasons that fact flips everything you know about 40K on its head. All I said was I would be interested to see their reaction, if any, to the retutn of a Primarch. I see him becoming either Star father from 50k Shape of nightmare or somthing like Sigmar from AoS both means imperium ends as it is now and major warp tear manifistation in real space. Manus: tried to warn the emperor and got the wolves for that... (aside from actually many primarchs working to rid the imperium of the only good weapon against chaos (among them many loyalists), psykers. Or how they eventually turn on each other and resort to in-fighting? 4. Perturabo: treatment of him by the Emperor. I would also love to see how the Primarchs react after encountering some of the Sensei since techinically both are the children of the Emperor. You have simply pointed out the circumstances in which the traitors were corrupted, they were all willing to side with chaos in one way or another. Custodes Are On The Wrong Side. or the execution of orders. Subscribe to BoLS Prime. Stranger things have happened in the 40k universe. He convinces him that his pennance is done, and they return to find the imperium in shambles. As someone else suggested, I think a good story could e Russ returning with a cure for the Emperor which does not work, but can instead be used to cure Guilliman. Warhammer 40K FAQ Updates, Index Astartes For Black Templars, AND The Return Of Legendary Vehicles . 2. yes it was really warp energies used, evryhting I have read, mostly on this wiki, clearly states this, otherwise, Primarchs could be produced without the Emperor, 3. there is almost no evidence? That’s how the Perpetuals works. That means there are just three options: A) The Emperor’s most loyal son is following a plan that leads to the Emperor’s death. He is getting a lot more screen time lately. sorry but you really dare to use the fucked up USA as an example, sry you guys over there do not even understand the concept of socialism nor things like structural poverty and so on. Flying under the radar this week, Games Workshop has made a couple of interesting announcements for their tabletop war game, Warhammer 40K.GW has made some … Warhammer 40k Wiki is a FANDOM Games Community. Even the Horus Heresy only works as a story if you keep the Emperor out of the action until the last scene. As someone else suggested, I think a good story could e Russ returning with a cure for the Emperor which does not work, but can instead be used to cure Guilliman. Draigo is not convincing evidence in any way. The likes of witch the Imperium has never seen. They reorginaze the beuracracy to be more effiecient. All the traitors gave themselves willingly, even Fulgrim in the end. Ever wonder why their champions always seem to fumble at the goal line? Draigo survived (and is surviving) in the warp for a long time now, and he's not even a primarch! Further posts here will be deleted. After all the only reason all of the traitor Primarchs became tainted was because they willingly accepted it. So what does that mean for 40k? They fight a 650 year crusade against the eldar, and wipe the last eldar craftworld out. That ALSO means anyone who is trying to kill the Emperor so that he CAN reincarnate is actually RIGHT. @ Custodes: what is their taks and how many are there?.. Some think he's going to die and the galaxy will end in blood and death as his light departs us. They are loyalist and they don’t mean to be on the wrong side, but their entire job of defending the Husk of the Emperor is just delaying his return. DA always doing their own interests, also: quite leaderless with the death o the Lion and the 2nd in command, easily influenced.