In short, yes I think she is trying to help. Basically she is waiting for you to kill her.

The filthy woman even claims the Valley got worse once Astraea arrived, though that could be atributed to jealousy. As God/Umbasa has forgotten about them.


The theme of Saint/ Maiden Astraea in Demon's Souls for the PS3 I like this theme, and I love the boss fight.

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TPR Embers and Ashes: Melancholy Music from the Souls Series ℗ 2018 TPR Lyricist: Shunsuke Kida Auto-generated by … The rest is history. 1 Description 2 Appearance 3 Lore 4 Strategy 5 Etymology 6 Trivia 7 Gallery "She is a pure soul who has gone into the Valley of Defilement to help the wretched and the suffering who dwell there.

The beautiful thing is that the stage is set in such a manner that both aren't mutually exclusive. I can't really expand about this subject, but an interesting question that always bothered me about the Souls series, what constitutes as a single soul? I don't have any. Not really agreeing, the place couldn't possibly been in any way better than it was before the fog, people don't usually reside in a place were they throw aborted babies to. She screwed up and you put an end to her folly. Did you guys found any evidence in either direction? The old one the ultimately summons you as the most powerful soul remaining in Boletaria. Both and interesting topic and one that I personally enjoy: Souls games lore talk! GundamSentinel:Astraea then had a crisis of faith, supposed she had to fight fire with fire and turned towards the demonic powers. imho of course.

When players find her, she is perched on a rock, blood, swamp water and plague staining her skirt and helpless. That would mean that when Astraea entered the Valley of Defilement and wanted to draw upon God's power to cleanse the land, she was actually drawing upon the same power that was corrupting the land and she only made matters worse, even though she had good intentions. After all, Astrea wasn't a monster, she didn't have to be stopped like the others that were corrupted into demons.

Archived. She doubted her God's compassion is why she lost faith and turned to the Old One for the power to purify the valley and he granted her a demon's soul. Alma Mare .

And she is bad. The leechmonger and Dirty colossus are sources of the plague and poison, are the depraved also feel long past human. Mushinronja 999,595 views

She became part of the Valley, tied there and powerless to do anything about it.

Is all the chaos you see happening despite her best efforts? save hide report. 1 POSTED: 13 Apr 2015 10:26. You need her soul. I don't agree with his interpretation on the beaks of the Depraved, though.

I prefer to think that she is trying to help, just that it's not doing any good, that it is in fact making things worse.

Having just finished Demon's Souls, I'm still thinking about that bit of the lore. She is good.

One of the most iconic boss battles in the history of the medium. Astraea then had a crisis of faith, supposed she had to fight fire with fire and turned towards the demonic powers.

She just couldn't grasp that there was no way for her to cure the Valley of Defilement while the Old One was still around and slowly became a demon. Ha, Astraea. Yeah, I've seen Vatti's video. Maybe also a certain hubris, that she would be able to make a difference where others had failed. Maiden Astraea.

I don't entirely agree with Vatti's interpretation, as in that Astraea was actually doing some good in the Valley of Defilement. She just couldn't grasp that there was no way for her to cure the Valley of Defilement while the Old One was still around and slowly became a demon. This theory makes the player's actions more understandable, as you would be really putting her out of her deluded misery.

Maiden Astraea. If you pay attention to her level you see that she is actually tied to the ground by red goo. The way I see it, Astraea hadn't done much to improve the situation, however much she tried. The spell created from her soul has in its descriptions that "It is natural that those that take in all that is impure are themselves the most impure of all" so she was trying to purify the valley and do good.

Maiden Astraea Lore. It's definitely one of the best chunks of it in the entire series, as far as I'm concerned. I'm not contesting that she tried to make the place better, but personally I think she was deluded by a God that wasn't at all what she thought it was. I've read claims of tendrils going from Astrea's lower body into the pools in the bottom of the valley where the aborted children dwell. The Dark Souls counterpart (which is amazing in its own right) is much less ambiguous about the role Queelag's Sister played.

I never understood what the hell was going on.

It supposes that Umbasa (God) and the Old One are one and the same being, with the Old One being both responsible for the Valley of Defilement's existence and the only source of magical power (including Miracles). I could go on and on about how I think she is trying to help the valley.

Her bodyguard, Garl Vinland, is her only form of offense and defense.

It's all left to us to view it as we want. Posted by 4 years ago.

Served from: | Version: com. It just seems like blood stains on her skirt. So what's the deal with the Valley of Defilement?

Well, my view of the Valley of Defilement as such is probably just different from yours.


Your views on Demon Maiden Astraea. I don't agree with this at all. To help the locals.

I dunno, maybe I just prefer dead babies to resurrected plague-ridden demon baby corpses from hell.

Vaati is someone who's poured over almost every inch of the lore, so is someone whose opinion I tend to believe when it comes to this. We know a person's souls is dependant on his life, what wretched being is a single soul value? Which makes her an archdemon like any other. Is Astraea really helping the locals as best as she can?

She became part of the Valley, tied there and powerless to do anything about it.

In my mind its inhabitants were wretched, but not crazy and violent.

But Remember, as the saying goes "The road to hell is paved with good intentions.". So, is Astraea trying to improve the Valley or just preying on the unfortunate to fulfill her new-found duty to the Old One?

Which is fair. It's definitely one of the best chunks of it in the entire series, as far as I'm concerned. Demon's Souls Walkthrough: Maiden Astraea of Valley of Defilement 5-3 - Duration: 10:41. What she has to realize is that actually Umbasa and the old one are one and the same thing. After all the local Great Demons seem to be making the matters worse. Maybe it wasn't always the case, but by the time you meet them... On the other hand, I looked closely at the cutscene and I don't see the supposed tendrils in Astraea. I just stepped through the fog, saw that the swamp valley weirdoes were venerating Astraea, who I guess was supposed to be a sort of Kurtz figure to them who had become corrupted by staring too long in the abyss, then proceeded to cheese her with a bow from a blind spot Garl couldn't get into. Thread Index Search Forums Posting Guidelines Contact Moderators. Easily one of the best tracks in the entire series, imo. Maiden Astraea is a boss in Demon's Souls. King Allant was the one that woke the Old One and caused the colourless fog to cross the land. Or is she playing the part of a Saint in order to lure the locals to feed her souls?

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It's not so much you have to kill her because she screwed up but you have to kill her for the better good. In essence the player character and Astrea made the same decision, to do something wrong for the right reasons. Maybe that never happened at all and she is indeed trying her best to help the Valley until the very end. She seems so calm and nice, I'm not sure why she's an enemy if some one could explain why I would be thankful, but everything she and Vinland says during the battle makes me feel bad about myself haha... 20 comments . He's on the "good intentions, horrible outcome" side of the fence.

Never knew what her deal was. It wasn't the Old One that caused that place to be wretched, it was wretched before that. That's... disturbing to say the least. Tower of Latria - Old Monk introduction - Duration: 1:16. She is corrupted and cannot leave. If she had, what was it like before she got there, I wonder. How could Disney redeem itself from The Last Jedi. 10:41. Boleteria was what caused the place to be as awful as it was and the colourless fog didn't do much to make it worse.